What are the differences between this project and tuwunel ? #1538

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opened 2026-03-13 13:53:28 +00:00 by KaKi87 · 13 comments

Hi,

This project is said to be :

the official community continuation of the conduwuit homeserver

(Source)

While tuwunel is said to be :

the official successor to conduwuit

(Source)

What are the differences ?

Thanks

Hi, This project is said to be : > the official community continuation of the conduwuit homeserver ([Source](https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/src/commit/f61d1a11e05fc647ebe2137f6d75e64283af380e/README.md?display=source#L14)) While tuwunel is said to be : > the official successor to conduwuit ([Source](https://github.com/matrix-construct/tuwunel/blob/7e21b9d7304b412aa9de99ce357e132678c62130/README.md?plain=1#L29)) What are the differences ? Thanks
Owner

Previously: #849

Previously: #849
Owner

Previously: https://programming.dev/post/34280774

Anyway, closing - we don't keep a list of the multitude of differences, aside from the changelog, and these conversations never seem to go pleasantly.

Previously: https://programming.dev/post/34280774 Anyway, closing - we don't keep a list of the multitude of differences, aside from the changelog, and these conversations never seem to go pleasantly.
Jade closed this issue 2026-03-13 14:21:09 +00:00
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Previously: #849
Previously: https://programming.dev/post/34280774

From these, it seems to me like continuwuity is to tuwunel what Forgejo is to Gitea and tuwunel is to conduwuit what Gitea is to Gogs.

Did I understand correctly ?

these conversations never seem to go pleasantly

I'm sorry I didn't mean to start an unpleasant conversation, I'm just trying to understand.

I did search first if there was an existing thread and didn't find any, it took me a few minutes but I figured out it's because I didn't check closed ones (I have an automated redirection from open to all on my self-hosted Forgejo and on Codeberg but I should turn it into a userscript to have it on all Forgejo instances, and on GitHub I have a redirect from is:issue is:open to is:issue).

I also did search at tuwunel's repo, found nothing, and posted as well. Which I'm guessing will end up deleted on sight, as the author of #849 said they did ask as well and now I see their post was deleted.

The reason why I'm looking into alternative Matrix servers is I'm having a loooot of technical trouble with Matrix servers and clients lately, and I've been trying to figure out where it comes from, and I got lost. I started Matrix at converser.eu, until I eventually started self-hosting the Synapse server with the Poney House client (fork of Cinny that was interesting when Cinny wasn't evolving much), until it eventually took forever to receive and send messages, then I abandoned and went back to converser.eu, but for the past few weeks it has been very unreliable so I looked into going back to self-hosting but using conduwuit cause I've heard of it in the past, then I saw it was discontinued and replaced by tuwunel, which I did install a month ago while using the now-modern Cinny, until it the last times I tried to join rooms that do exist it would say it doesn't, as for the rooms I already joined, I can send messages but no one are seeing them, and I haven't been seeing new messages for a week.

In parallel of all this I also tried to find public servers like converser.eu that runs Synapse in France (Europe), but that would run conduwuit or tuwunel (as I just now discovered continuwuity I haven't looked yet) in Europe, but I couldn't find anything with open registrations and up to date.

Anyway, thank you, sorry for the trouble, and sorry for the long post.

> Previously: #849 > Previously: https://programming.dev/post/34280774 From these, it seems to me like continuwuity is to tuwunel what Forgejo is to Gitea and tuwunel is to conduwuit what Gitea is to Gogs. Did I understand correctly ? > these conversations never seem to go pleasantly I'm sorry I didn't mean to start an unpleasant conversation, I'm just trying to understand. I did search first if there was an existing thread and didn't find any, it took me a few minutes but I figured out it's because I didn't check closed ones (I have an automated redirection from *open* to *all* on my self-hosted Forgejo and on Codeberg but I should turn it into a userscript to have it on all Forgejo instances, and on GitHub I have a redirect from `is:issue is:open` to `is:issue`). I also did search at tuwunel's repo, found nothing, and posted as well. Which I'm guessing will end up deleted on sight, as the author of #849 said they did ask as well and now I see their post was deleted. The reason why I'm looking into alternative Matrix servers is I'm having a loooot of technical trouble with Matrix servers and clients lately, and I've been trying to figure out where it comes from, and I got lost. I started Matrix at converser.eu, until I eventually started self-hosting the Synapse server with the Poney House client (fork of Cinny that was interesting when Cinny wasn't evolving much), until it eventually took forever to receive and send messages, then I abandoned and went back to converser.eu, but for the past few weeks it has been very unreliable so I looked into going back to self-hosting but using conduwuit cause I've heard of it in the past, then I saw it was discontinued and replaced by tuwunel, which I did install a month ago while using the now-modern Cinny, until it the last times I tried to join rooms that do exist it would say it doesn't, as for the rooms I already joined, I can send messages but no one are seeing them, and I haven't been seeing new messages for a week. In parallel of all this I also tried to find public servers like converser.eu that runs Synapse in France (Europe), but that would run conduwuit or tuwunel (as I just now discovered continuwuity I haven't looked yet) in Europe, but I couldn't find anything with open registrations and up to date. Anyway, thank you, sorry for the trouble, and sorry for the long post.
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It's okay, I don't think anyone is blaming you for asking the question, its reasonable, just kind of shutting it down since it often turns unpleasant. There are some public servers listed in our README, that are either open reg or manually approval but fairly quick (I run federated.nexus myself), you should be able to find one you like!

It's okay, I don't think anyone is blaming you for asking the question, its reasonable, just kind of shutting it down since it often turns unpleasant. There are some public servers listed in our README, that are either open reg or manually approval but fairly quick (I run federated.nexus myself), you should be able to find one you like!
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Okay, so would you say my analogy above is correct ?

Indeed, I see two servers hosted by Hetzner in Germany, that's nice, also I see the official community space is hosted in a different homeserver from the UK, that isn't explicitly listed ? What about that ?

Okay, so would you say my analogy above is correct ? Indeed, I see two servers hosted by Hetzner in Germany, that's nice, also I see the official community space is hosted in a different homeserver from the UK, that isn't explicitly listed ? What about that ?
Contributor

@KaKi87 wrote in #1538 (comment):

also I see the official community space is hosted in a different homeserver from the UK, that isn't explicitly listed ? What about that ?

I think it's not open to registrations, maybe.

@KaKi87 wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/issues/1538#issuecomment-26206: > also I see the official community space is hosted in a different homeserver from the UK, that isn't explicitly listed ? What about that ? I think it's not open to registrations, maybe.
Owner

From these, it seems to me like continuwuity is to tuwunel what Forgejo is to Gitea and tuwunel is to conduwuit what Gitea is to Gogs.

Kind of, but not really. For one, both Continuwuity and tuwunel forked at the same point.

I think it's not open to registrations, maybe.

Yep - continuwuity.org is closed registration, and is mainly there to provide room aliases and secondary accounts for team members.
continuwuity.rocks is a demo homeserver.
The team generally prefer to focus on improving the code rather than running free services.

> From these, it seems to me like continuwuity is to tuwunel what Forgejo is to Gitea and tuwunel is to conduwuit what Gitea is to Gogs. Kind of, but not really. For one, both Continuwuity and tuwunel forked at the same point. > I think it's not open to registrations, maybe. Yep - continuwuity.org is closed registration, and is mainly there to provide room aliases and secondary accounts for team members. continuwuity.rocks is a demo homeserver. The team generally prefer to focus on improving the code rather than running free services.
Owner

Indeed, I see two servers hosted by Hetzner in Germany, that's nice, also I see the official community space is hosted in a different homeserver from the UK, that isn't explicitly listed ? What about that ?

Just to make sure there's no confusion, continuwuity.rocks is merely proxied by a Hetzner host, it isn't actually hosted in NBG.

> Indeed, I see two servers hosted by Hetzner in Germany, that's nice, also I see the official community space is hosted in a different homeserver from the UK, that isn't explicitly listed ? What about that ? Just to make sure there's no confusion, `continuwuity.rocks` is merely proxied by a Hetzner host, it isn't actually hosted in NBG.
Author

Where is it hosted then ? And is there a privacy policy ?

Where is it hosted then ? And is there a privacy policy ?
Author

Hello 🙏

Hello 🙏
Owner

Hi @KaKi87 this is a closed bug, it is not for asking questions and back and forth. Please join matrix somewhere and ask any questions you have.

Hi @KaKi87 this is a closed bug, it is not for asking questions and back and forth. Please join matrix somewhere and ask any questions you have.
Author

Please join matrix somewhere and ask any questions you have.

That would be easy if I hadn't yet to choose a continuwuity server to join...

That's exactly what my questions are about

> Please join matrix somewhere and ask any questions you have. That would be easy if I hadn't yet to choose a continuwuity server to join... That's exactly what my questions are about
Owner

@KaKi87 wrote in #1538 (comment):

Please join matrix somewhere and ask any questions you have.

That would be easy if I hadn't yet to choose a continuwuity server to join...

That's exactly what my questions are about

If you want to ask questions about Continuwuity, you should make a Matrix account on another public homeserver and join our main room to do it. You can make an account on a Continuwuity homeserver later -- there's no rule that says you can only have one Matrix account.

@KaKi87 wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/issues/1538#issuecomment-27453: > > Please join matrix somewhere and ask any questions you have. > > That would be easy if I hadn't yet to choose a continuwuity server to join... > > That's exactly what my questions are about If you want to ask questions about Continuwuity, you should make a Matrix account on [another public homeserver](https://joinmatrix.org) and join [our main room](https://matrix.to/#/#continuwuity:continuwuity.org) to do it. You can make an account on a Continuwuity homeserver later -- there's no rule that says you can only have one Matrix account.
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