Disable presence by default #1399

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This pull request disables outbound presence by default, and attaches warnings about the performance impact of enabling outbound presence, typing, and read receipts. Also removes the inflammatory and empirically incorrect statements about being faster than synapse.

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This pull request disables *outbound* presence by default, and attaches warnings about the performance impact of enabling outbound presence, typing, and read receipts. Also removes the inflammatory and empirically incorrect statements about being faster than synapse. **Pull request checklist:** <!-- You need to complete these before your PR can be considered. If you aren't sure about some, feel free to ask for clarification in #dev:continuwuity.org. --> - [x] This pull request targets the `main` branch, and the branch is named something other than `main`. - [x] I have written an appropriate pull request title and my description is clear. - [x] I understand I am responsible for the contents of this pull request. - I have followed the [contributing guidelines][c1]: - [x] My contribution follows the [code style][c2], if applicable. - [x] I ran [pre-commit checks][c1pc] before opening/drafting this pull request. - [ ] ~~I have [tested my contribution][c1t] (or proof-read it for documentation-only changes) myself, if applicable. This includes ensuring code compiles.~~ N/A - config only change - [x] My commit messages follow the [commit message format][c1cm] and are descriptive. - [x] I have written a [news fragment][n1] for this PR, if applicable<!--(can be done after hitting open!)-->. <!-- Notes on these requirements: - While not required, we encourage you to sign your commits with GPG or SSH to attest the authenticity of your changes. - While we allow LLM-assisted contributions, we do not appreciate contributions that are low quality, which is typical of machine-generated contributions that have not had a lot of love and care from a human. Please do not open a PR if all you have done is asked ChatGPT to tidy up the codebase with a +-100,000 diff. - In the case of code style violations, reviewers may leave review comments/change requests indicating what the ideal change would look like. For example, a reviewer may suggest you lower a log level, or use `match` instead of `if/else` etc. - In the case of code style violations, pre-commit check failures, minor things like typos/spelling errors, and in some cases commit format violations, reviewers may modify your branch directly, typically by making changes and adding a commit. Particularly in the latter case, a reviewer may rebase your commits to squash "spammy" ones (like "fix", "fix", "actually fix"), and reword commit messages that don't satisfy the format. - Pull requests MUST pass the `Checks` CI workflows to be capable of being merged. This can only be bypassed in exceptional circumstances. If your CI flakes, let us know in matrix:r/dev:continuwuity.org. - Pull requests have to be based on the latest `main` commit before being merged. If the main branch changes while you're making your changes, you should make sure you rebase on main before opening a PR. Your branch will be rebased on main before it is merged if it has fallen behind. - We typically only do fast-forward merges, so your entire commit log will be included. Once in main, it's difficult to get out cleanly, so put on your best dress, smile for the cameras! --> [c1]: https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/src/branch/main/CONTRIBUTING.md [c2]: https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/src/branch/main/docs/development/code_style.mdx [c1pc]: https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/src/branch/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#pre-commit-checks [c1t]: https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/src/branch/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#running-tests-locally [c1cm]: https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/src/branch/main/CONTRIBUTING.md#commit-messages [n1]: https://towncrier.readthedocs.io/en/stable/tutorial.html#creating-news-fragments

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chore: Disable presence by default, and add warnings to other heavy ops c32d1bddc1

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you need to run cargo build to generate the new example config :3

you need to run `cargo build` to generate the new example config :3

nex added 1 commit 2026-02-17 01:51:56 +00:00

chore: Add news frag & rebuild config d150841a4c

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my name is ginger shaped and i approve this pull request

my name is ginger shaped and i approve this pull request

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idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"?

idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"?

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otherwise good!

otherwise good!

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sorry quad changed my mind :(

sorry quad changed my mind :(

Jade commented 2026-02-17 01:54:42 +00:00

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mrs shaped, this is a wendy's

mrs shaped, this is a wendy's

nex commented 2026-02-17 01:55:23 +00:00

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@Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment):

idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"?

The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue.

@Henry-Hiles wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/pulls/1399#issuecomment-24389: > idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"? The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue.

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@nex wrote in #1399 (comment):

@Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment):

idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"?

The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue.

It's also called undue for typing indicators and read reciepts though.

@nex wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/pulls/1399#issuecomment-24394: > @Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment): > > > idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"? > > The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue. It's also called undue for typing indicators and read reciepts though.

Henry-Hiles commented 2026-02-17 01:57:33 +00:00

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If you disagree dont worry though, its you folks' project after all. Was just the only thing I noticed when reading through the diff.

If you disagree dont worry though, its you folks' project after all. Was just the only thing I noticed when reading through the diff.

nex commented 2026-02-17 01:57:46 +00:00

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@Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment):

@nex wrote in #1399 (comment):

@Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment):

idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"?

The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue.

It's also called undue for typing indicators and read reciepts though.

Start typing in old Matrix HQ and you'll change your mind on it being "undue"

@Henry-Hiles wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/pulls/1399#issuecomment-24397: > @nex wrote in #1399 (comment): > > > @Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment): > > > idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"? > > > > > > The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue. > > It's also called undue for typing indicators and read reciepts though. Start typing in old Matrix HQ and you'll change your mind on it being "undue"

Henry-Hiles commented 2026-02-17 01:58:39 +00:00

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@nex wrote in #1399 (comment):

@Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment):

@nex wrote in #1399 (comment):

@Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment):

idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"?

The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue.

It's also called undue for typing indicators and read reciepts though.

Start typing in old Matrix HQ and you'll change your mind on it being "undue"

To be fair if you do anything in old matrix hq you will regret your life choices!

@nex wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/pulls/1399#issuecomment-24399: > @Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment): > > > @nex wrote in #1399 (comment): > > > @Henry-Hiles wrote in #1399 (comment): > > > > idk if i like "undue strain". is it undue? maybe just "extra strain"? or "a lot of strain"? > > > > > > > > > The additional weight of federated presence is disproportionate to its value, in my opinion, making it undue. > > > > > > It's also called undue for typing indicators and read reciepts though. > > Start typing in old Matrix HQ and you'll change your mind on it being "undue" To be fair if you do *anything* in old matrix hq you will regret your life choices!

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my name is ginger shaped and i think this pull request is okay

my name is ginger shaped and i think this pull request is okay

nex added 1 commit 2026-02-17 02:06:14 +00:00

chore: Lighten the phrasing 4ccb68c975

nex commented 2026-02-17 02:06:33 +00:00

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@ginger wrote in #1399 (comment):

my name is ginger shaped and i think this pull request is okay

Just okay? 🥺

@ginger wrote in https://forgejo.ellis.link/continuwuation/continuwuity/pulls/1399#issuecomment-24401: > my name is ginger shaped and i think this pull request is okay Just okay? 🥺

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my name is quad and i approve this pull request!!!

my name is quad and i approve this pull request!!!

nex commented 2026-02-17 02:07:14 +00:00

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nex merged commit d40893730c into main 2026-02-17 02:07:20 +00:00

nex deleted branch nex/chore/disable-presence-by-default 2026-02-17 02:07:20 +00:00

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